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freekedoutfish · Dec 09, 2006, 12:37 PM // 12:37

Does anyone know if Anet puts leaching into the same catagory as extreme farming, and the use of bots?

I say extreme farming, because I know they dont mind casual farming.

And Leaching meaning those who enter missions or challenges and just stand there and dont help, to reap the benefits of others.

I ask because I know Anet uses software to detecet behaviour similar to bots. Meaning the watch for repetitive motions and actions and behaviour, to determine if a player is real or not.

So does that work with leaching too? Because in essence, leachers are doing the same action repeatadly. Pressing enter challenge and just standing there.

So does that mean Anet detects them doing it, and can ban them?

or do they even care whether people leach, since they only seem to consider something unfair and illegal if it gives someone an unfair advantage over others.

And technically leaching doesnt, because you dont gain as much faction (in instance of challenges) when you leach, as apose to taking part.

Before anyone asks. Im completely against leaching and extreme farming and certainly the use of bots. My main reason for asking is if there was some way to prevent leaching?

Yanman.be · Dec 09, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40

Leeching in PvE should not be penalized, it's the group's fault for taking idiots.

In PvP, there should be a penalty...

lishi · Dec 09, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Leeching in PvE should not be penalized, it's the group's fault for taking idiots.

In PvP, there should be a penalty...

its hard to know a leecher by just the name you know

but its also hard when someone is afk and im screaming lets go back i hate freeloader 70% of the group keep going ahead.

BoredJoe · Dec 09, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08

A.Net regard leeching as fine as far as I know. Some of the leechers in FA have probably gained many hundreds of thousands of gold just by leeching. In a way I'm surprised the chinese farmers haven't migrated to FA international yet. It may not be the fastest way to make gold but it's the easiest.

Sab · Dec 09, 2006, 01:37 PM // 13:37

I recall ANet saying there is nothing wrong with leeching, and therefore they won't be fixing the mechanics or banning leechers anytime soon. I wish they would do something about it though...

Navaros · Dec 09, 2006, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Anet has said "leeching is not a support issue".

Raven Oakgrove · Dec 09, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

I wish A-net would do something about it . I dont complain much ,but "leeching" is/has been bad at FA . This past thursday morning I had 5 leechers and then 1 other quit , not that it would have helped 3 vs 8 ?

What happens in that case if all of the people who are playing leave and leave the leechers ? do they get points or does it bone the other team as well ? I wouldnt want to grief the other side just since im mad about leechers ?

freekedoutfish · Dec 09, 2006, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Raven Oakgrove

I wish A-net would do something about it . I dont complain much ,but "leeching" is/has been bad at FA . This past thursday morning I had 5 leechers and then 1 other quit , not that it would have helped 3 vs 8 ?

What happens in that case if all of the people who are playing leave and leave the leechers ? do they get points or does it bone the other team as well ? I wouldnt want to grief the other side just since im mad about leechers ?

If there no one ingame killing anyone, then no one will get any faction or balth points.

lacasner · Dec 09, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

No, there is no problem with being afk

Darkobra · Dec 09, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by Raven Oakgrove

I wish A-net would do something about it . I dont complain much ,but "leeching" is/has been bad at FA . This past thursday morning I had 5 leechers and then 1 other quit , not that it would have helped 3 vs 8 ?

What happens in that case if all of the people who are playing leave and leave the leechers ? do they get points or does it bone the other team as well ? I wouldnt want to grief the other side just since im mad about leechers ?

Unfortunately, the rules of FA are, only three games can go on at one time. If every one leaves the leechers on both sides (which won't happen, one side will take the easy win), then that's one less game that can be held at that time. If all three games happen like this, then that's the end of that.

Gli · Dec 09, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

I needed to boost my Kurzick faction up to 10,000 last week, and tried a few bouts of Aspenwood. Never again! I can't believe there's still so many leechers out there. Really, if I'd had anything to do with designing that mission, I'd be all over myself to find a way to stop leeching. Don't these ANet designers have any pride in their work?

(Then a guildie got online and we decided to try Duel of the Houses with the 2 of us plus 6 heroes. That quest is kind of patheticly easy, playing that way. We spent much more time resigning and walking back for the next battle than wiping out the opposition.)

Malice Black · Dec 09, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Another leeching thread is needed because?

Riotgear · Dec 09, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Navaros

Anet has said "leeching is not a support issue".

I don't remember the specifics, but that statement had to do with how they were being reported, not the lack of action being taken on them.

Of course, people are welcome to keep reporting them. Waste enough of their time/money with support and abuse tickets and perhaps they'll take action.

Navaros · Dec 09, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

I don't remember the specifics, but that statement had to do with how they were being reported, not the lack of action being taken on them.

Of course, people are welcome to keep reporting them. Waste enough of their time/money with support and abuse tickets and perhaps they'll take action.

What specifically are you basing those statements on, merely wishful thinking?

freekedoutfish · Dec 09, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by The Admins Bane

Another leeching thread is needed because?

And we needed a comment with such a negative torn because?

Dev121 · Dec 09, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10

It's the same as the majority of scamming , its just a issue that usualy goes untouched ... if you get a leecher and you relise straight away , just leave and dont waste your time playing for a idiot.

Franco Power · Dec 09, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

No, Anet doesnt care about leechers, all you got to do is leave the mission and resign, you not going to die because someone decided or HAD to go afk.

Riotgear · Dec 09, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by Navaros

What specifically are you basing those statements on, merely wishful thinking?

Memory, maybe? It was a while ago. I remember the jist of it, not the specifics. It was something to the effect of "not a support issue" being to report it as a violation instead of a customer support issue, because the customer service dept. can't do anything about it.

Navaros · Dec 09, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

It was something to the effect of "not a support issue" being to report it as a violation instead of a customer support issue, because the customer service dept. can't do anything about it.

This is incorrect.

Gaile said don't send in any tickets at all about leeching, end of story. Anet doesn't wanna hear about it.

Jimyd · Dec 10, 2006, 02:13 AM // 02:13

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Unfortunately, the rules of FA are, only three games can go on at one time. If every one leaves the leechers on both sides (which won't happen, one side will take the easy win), then that's one less game that can be held at that time. If all three games happen like this, then that's the end of that.

Question, what does FA stand for?